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Subject: Ceremonial Fire
Posted by Elizabeth
Wednesday, April 11, 2007 at 16:19:33
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We run a reconciled not for profit group here and share all nations, tribes and cultures.
We are learning Desert Art and Salt water art and 3D woodburning etc. We have a Ceremonial Fire in my backyard for the group. My business partner who is Aboriginal will be blessing the land soon and we have been waiting 3 months for the conditions to be right.
The thing we found the hardest was tradition vs written permission.
You have to have permits to have a Ceremonial fire but you do not have to for a Hunni in the ground to cook a N.Z meal.
We are breaking down the barriers between Indigenous, Councils, Government, different cultures etc.
The children love it. The adults love it.
Do any of you have ceremonial celebrations that you share with others?
Has anyone had the oneness of the Dreamtime?
Has anyone had an experience on Sacred ground of ancestors?
I am not indigenous. My business partner had to explain to me that people here want us to give talks and presentations as usually as she said "a black and a white dont work together like we do"
That is because we do not 'see' black and white.
It seems though that the more you shine the more people want to bring you down. You try to send them Love and Light and just move forward but they seem to get more upset with you.
So you keep sending more Love and Light.
The Angels said that an American Shaman Indian was coming to help me. With my learning.
I have had a colour healer enter my life but he is N.Z and he is able to divine. We have seen the image of the Indian coming but maybe they mean spiritually and nnot physically.
Anyone else had any of these experiences.
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Posted by Starseed
Friday, April 13, 2007 at 07:09:19
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It sounds like you are making a difference...uniting all the children on earth.
"Oneness of dreamtime?" Do you mean bringing your consciousness into your unconscious? Visiting other planes / dimentions that you do work in? Or meeting souls during dreamtime?
Yes...many of us do have teachers on the other side and here on this plane as well. I for one have Papa & my Teacher (in spirit), and on earth I have my twin flame (my husband who we have shared MANY lifetimes together) & a very dear friend in England...the one they call Peter.
Thank you for sharing your vibrations here.
As Above
So Below
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Posted by Elizabeth
Friday, April 13, 2007 at 08:00:45
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Starseed,
I mean both as i have found that many people have different dreamtimes.
All Indigenous meet with ancestors during their dreamtime they have all told me. NZ, etc.
I have been told that there are people who also 'dreamtime' different dimensions but it is sort of 'visiting' touching base with their original essence.
All people have a different story to tell.
I just listen.
A friend of mine has been told he is from another planet and he was told his name and the name of the planet. I didnt ask him the names as I felt I wasn't meant to and that it is a protection thing.
If they want to talk and say it, it is their choice. If they are not comfortable with blurting it out I do not ask.
It is only since coming on this site that I have been listening differently, feeling things more and finding things I never found before.
Those Doreen Healing Angel Cards I got on impulse a while ago, have also opened up doors etc.
Even the tarot cards feel different and I read them differently.
I have been listening to music a lot more differently and came up for a name for what I feel.
Subliminal frequency vibrations.
What that means is you know the song from the movie Ghost. that one at the start.
i have listened to the original version and the one for the movie. There is a large difference between the two.
If you really listen to it and feel the music, the peak vibrations are towards the end, the end that puts chills all over your body.
It is not so much the blokes voice but the wordswith the vibrations.
The cymbols that go off at cetain stages in the music. Listen to the song again with this awareness.
then when you 'feel' the vibrations from the cymbols it is like a massive frequency is emmitted.
I think I have told someone before but maybe not on this message board. I cant remember sorry.
Imagine a pebble dropped on the ground and there are rings going out through the land like as though it is a pond. But the frequency does not decrease as it goes out in the rings. It stays consistent all the way out. and it goes out all over the world.
and when this frequency goes out certain people who are aware feel it as love and harmony throughtout the land.
Like the cannons going off in the 1812 Overture.
But not war. It is love.
that is why the song was such a hit.
Yes he has a great body patrick and everybody loved the women and the man and the story. But it is more the song they remember.
Why?
Subliminal frequency vibration.
LOVE
So there is a vibration that is different but the same I am sharing as well I just realised.
Just imagine if the whole world did that, there would be so much love they wouldnt want to fight.
No matter what country, colour, race etc.
Well the theory and the truth is out publicly now and it doesnt matter if people use it.
You could even make Mary Had A little Lamb spread the word of love if you do this time with the words and the music.
All the Children Lauged and played.
Respect
elizabeth
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Posted by Elizabeth
Friday, April 13, 2007 at 08:09:16
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Sorry Starseed
I forgot the important bit.
when you listen to the music, sitting or standing, feel the music and the cymbols. when you feel the cymbo;s wht i feel is that the love (calling) is emmitted from your body (the love feeling) and it emmits outwards like ring riples around and outwards.
It is like your internal frequency vibration joins the music and song and the earth and oh the feeling you get is magnificent.
But I better ad a warning sorry, before I learnt to do this I did it without music and without knowing and a friend told me to stop calling.
I was calling for someone I had met and he came to me spiritually. It was the wrong person.
I myself have to be careful as I am not aware yet of the darkness. I have started to see things like people hunched over as though ducking out of sight but I just notice them and continue on with what I am doing.
I was told to not fear them.
Where there is darkness there is also light I feel. So i just see them and dont get scared.
Respect
elizabeth
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Posted by Starseed
Saturday, April 14, 2007 at 08:51:49
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Hello Elizabeth
It sounds as if you are somewhat disassociated with your body (spacy) a bit...as I am, too. You may find that grounding will help you stay in the here and now. You can simply do this in a variety of ways: visualize roots in your feet going deep into mother earth, dance, sing, take a salt bath, etc., etc...and do these several times a day. This is coming from the voice of experience. If I don't ground often, I can begin to lift off, get spacey, and my thoughts are all scattered about. You may also want to have some type of creative outlet...such as singing, drawing, painting, etc. This will help you to connecting with and channel the energy in a positive way...and also in creative imagination (Carl Jung). Your work with the indigenous tribes...drumming, dancing, sacred fire...would all fall into this category.
Yes, I thought this is what you meant when you spoke of dreamtime. I, too do all of the above. Just last night I saw visions of fairies and heard a male voice call out my name.
Also, you are right...as we do live in a polarized 3D world. So is the 4th and 5th dimention. Polarized, I mean. This is where you might be traveling to. I have been there as well in a few different travels: to view the well of souls, and OBEs, and to remote view. Yes, when you greet souls in these dimentions...you are right to not fear them. As they are just lower evolved souls whom are still learning, are stuck, etc.
"My father has many rooms" / your doors ...are all connected here as they can be chakras / quaballah / dimentions, etc. Very good! :)
As Above / As Within / Higher Dimentions / Higher Chakras / Higher Self
So Below / As Without / Lower Dimentions / Lower Chakras / Lower Self
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Posted by Elizabeth
Saturday, April 14, 2007 at 20:02:43
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Starseed
I do sing. Not a fantastic voice. But when people say that I make the hairs stand up ontheir arms and schills go down their spines, I think you do not have to have a voice like the great people with records.
As long as people can feel the song, you have shared with them.
Dancing...it is as though there is dancing of one sort in essence and then different dancing of the human body.
The essence dancing is like a pulsing light, and gentle touches from the swirls you can send out.
A gentle carress.
I dance privately by mself. But I sing more and do pictures (drawing sketching) and write poetry.
I have very little to fear at this present time I feel after reading your advice and the others for the young man that posted.
I have learnt a lot from those postings as well.
My song is playing now.
when I am thinking bad thoughts or anything. Scared or fearful, I sing songs out oud or inside.
The more fear felt the stronger the song.
Once I felt a bad day, so I got dressed up in a belly dancing costume, as I was learning it at the time, and went for a walk to buy some chicken for KFC with friends.
the kids thought it was funny, everyone was laughing and I was swing those hip and chinking all the way there and back.
People were laughing in the cars passing by, they had something good and funny to talk about.
I saw so many smiling faces it was great.
I will try the roots down into the earth.
I thought it was the joint essence joining up and singing together. Through the earth.
Carressing between the earth, essence, light, stars, moon etc.
I thought we inbetween are the connection betwenn the both and a marriage of the whole.
I didnt think of tree roots. I will try.
I have been dancing or standing swaying singing or just sitting, and then going into the earth and dancing with the vibrations, then we come up into me and the the stars and the moon etc come and join us. and then we are patterns swirling, drawing, dancing, singing al through eah other.
It feels so good.
I am not allowed to bring in from the all points. the four corners. I have been told that the strength of them when I combine them is to strong and i do not know yet how to control it combined going out. I mean me sending it out.
But i thought it all came out when you had taken it in in parts, it all came out in massive liight and liove.
I ahve a lot to learn and I have been told I am dangerous because I am like a child with out knowing what I am capable of.
So am i being dangerous do the dance with earth stars and moon and light and everything.
I dance with American Indian music and singing as well. Not just Aboriginal. I dont dance their dance I dance my dance to the music, vibrations.
I see an elder in America sitting on the edge of a cliff, singing to the father sun, and his voice calls and it sends shivers all over.
My favourite is the talking with the moon and the wolves caling each other.
I can hear his voice and see him now. He is wrapped up in his cloak.
Sorr. I write a lot and cant help it.
Harmony, Light and Love
the essence touch
Elizabeth
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Posted by Starseed
Saturday, April 14, 2007 at 20:15:36
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Brilliant. I sounds as if you are doing well with what you know. I like the part you say that you sing to the stars and moon...as I have recently read on several places...that it is our destiny as souls to become guides, ascended masters, and even stars & planets, etc. Not quite sure how I see that yet, but I do know that mother earth is a living entity called Giya. I have also read of others accounts where they sing love songs to the stars and moon...and they all sing back!
May your songs echo through all points in time and space
As Above
So Below
Starseed
And I enjoy reading your postings...
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Posted by Elizabeth
Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 03:21:26
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Thank you Starseed, I feel really happy and a bit home with everyone here.
i have learnt a lot here than I have in many years.
And i have felt warmth, Love and genuine sincerity.
Thank you Starseed and everyone.
Love Light and Harmony
elizabeth
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